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Mark
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Mastervip help

Big March 1


  Level: 'Big march variation 1' Nr: 36 Collection: 'Mastervip'

Little help: you are going to need it
Note: some sokoban programs can't store so mach data for one level

Solution(pushes 31214, moves 107690, in-lines 12048, changes 8695, steps 11593):

  Moves/Pushes/Box-lines/Changes/Steps/Pusher-lines: 57804/16317/6037/4388/5846/24049
W. M. Dekker
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Question How can someone create things like this Question
Diablo I get tired by so many handlings Diablo

W. M. Dekker
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Diablo That's nice ExclaimDiablo
I imported the LuRd 's as given by Mark. From this point, I finished this puzzle myself. That tokes day's, many day's, every day a part, saving the result as "Mastervip Big March 1 part 1, 2, 3, etc. .gam"
I got the sound "Yahoo" Total moves: 51.240 and pushes: 14.247
The puzzle is noted as "Solved"

DiabloQuestion But I can NOT replay this solution QuestionDiablo
When I go to "View" "Scores and Solutions" there is noted my solution on "Rank 1" "Player Wim Dekker" But when I clik on this solution I get the error message "Not a valid solution"

Question What's the problem Question

Mark
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Sokoban 2.3 b6 has a limit on number of moves and pushes
for one level. This means that you cant replay big solutions like this.
You only have ssc encoding, so you cant get LuRd either.

Solution for the problem:

For extra big levels or extra long solutions use
a program that can:
-handle 100x100 or more map size
-store up to 1,000,000 moves per level
-import multiple partial LuRd (so you can copy-paste
a section that repeats)
-quickly export / import LuRd or map as txt / xsb

Mark
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PS

If you import my LuRd above, the level must be solved,
but some programs cant store it. The limit is usally 100,000 moves per
level. This one has 107,000.

bjorn
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I have to comment on this. The only limit on anything in Sokoban 2.3 b6 is the size of an imported LuRd solution. There is a "sanity" check allowing only 100k to be imported from the windows clipboard. At the time I didn't realize there would ever be so large levels, I will of course remove this in the future.

Other than that, there is no limit on the size of a level. There is no limit on number of saved moves. There is no limit on number of moves in a solution. everything is allocated dynamically until you run out of memory Wink

Dekkers problem with replaying the stored solution must be a bug, I'm afraid. Willem, could you please send me the score file and any *.gam files you have for this level.

/Björn

W. M. Dekker
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Lol Björn, I have send you an E-mail with a couple of files attached. As you asked. Lol

Rijna Dekker
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Diablo Wim Dekker coppied all LuRd's of Mark also to the laptop of his wife, Rijna Dekker.
This Laptop is an Acer TravelMate 7520, Windows Vista, Installed memory: 2.00 GB, Total virtual memory: 3.74 GB.
Also on this laptop only 57.804 moves and 16.317 pushes were copied to clipboard. Finnishing this puzzle on this Laptop also ended with "Yahoo", and marked as "Solved". Replaying is also not possible, because it is a not valid solution. Diablo

Mark
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I've tried it out. You're correct.
There is a limit in posting a message.
I must do it in parts, but you cant import partial LuRd.
The solution has 106 kb so too much for import.

Mark
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part 1

  Moves/Pushes/Box-lines/Changes/Steps/Pusher-lines: 32320/8907/3156/2391/3083/12960
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part 2

  Moves/Pushes/Box-lines/Changes/Steps/Pusher-lines: 21320/6182/2423/1667/2323/9339

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